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The Ringer Fantasy Football Show · Monday, August 10

Training Camp Risers and Fallers, Luther Burden III Injured, Australia Jet Lag Scouts, and the Worst NFL Jersey Ever

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The hosts break down a rash of training camp injuries — Luther Burden III's groin strain, Lions center Cade Mays' broken wrist, Washington LT Laremy Tunsil's torn triceps, and McCaffrey/Dobbins missing practice — and debate how much each should move fantasy rankings. They also cover training camp hype (Jacoby Lane, Denzel Boston, Cyrus Allen, Jalen Coker), the Hall of Fame game (Carson Beck, Haynes King), ADP risers/fallers, and close with league-management bits and Australia travel/jet-lag logistics for the Rams/Niners.

This episode is a training-camp triage session: the hosts (Danny Heifetz, DK, and Craig) work through a wave of preseason injuries and hype cycles to figure out which are noise and which actually move rankings, while also flagging value plays and workload risks at running back and wide receiver.

The arguments

Luther Burden's groin strain is a real but modest dock, not a market crash. Craig, visibly rattled, wants to move him down only about half a round given the re-injury risk that comes with groin strains and the missed month of camp in Ben Johnson's complex offense. DK and Heifetz agree the market shouldn't overreact — dropping him too far runs into a muddled tier (Jordan Tyson, Carnell Tate, DK Metcalf, Parker Washington) — and if Burden is healthy by August 25th, he's still a clear draft.

The Bears' front seven and thin secondary make them a sneaky shootout-offense candidate. Heifetz argues that with Kobe Bryant out 8-10 weeks and the Bears forced to sign 31-year-old Xavier Woods, the team's supposed defensive strength is compromised, and a weak front seven means opponents will move the ball freely. He floats that Burden, Odunze, and Colston Loveland could all pay off if the Bears end up throwing far more than expected to keep pace. DK is more skeptical of paying up for Loveland specifically, worried his third-round price already assumes he outplays his rookie-tight-end comp (the "Travis Kelce" hype from the team).

Jameer Gibbs' offensive-line situation is deteriorating and lowers both his floor and ceiling. DK flags Cade Mays' broken wrist at center as a bigger deal than the market is treating it, pointing to Detroit's Christmas Day collapse against Minnesota (two rushing yards) as proof of how fragile the line already is. Craig adds that Jared Goff is unusually sensitive to interior pressure by EPA splits, which threatens the whole passing game, and with Isaiah Pacheco also hurt, the Lions' RB depth behind Gibbs is genuinely replacement-level (Sione Vaki, Jabari Small).

Losing Laramie Tunsil at left tackle meaningfully dents Washington's passing offense, even with a mobile quarterback. DK, who had praised Tunsil last episode right before the tricep injury, argues a rebuilt Washington line needed a foundational left tackle piece, and points to the 49ers-without-Trent-Williams and Chargers-without-healthy-tackles precedents as evidence of how much this can hurt. The hosts agree Jaden Daniels stays in the same tier (maybe dips just below Burrow/Herbert) since his mobility partially insulates him, but they lower expectations for the passing attack overall, including Diggs and McLaurin.

Training-camp wide receiver hype is mostly noise, with exceptions. Jacoby Lane (Ravens) is drawing rave reviews for catch-radius and ball skills, but both DK and Craig say he's not fantasy-relevant this year because Baltimore already has Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman, and Mark Andrews soaking up volume — Lane profiles as a real-life story, not a redraft add. Denzel Boston (Browns) gets more credit for polish and contested-catch ability, but the QB situation (Deshaun Watson's health) keeps him speculative. Cyrus Allen (Chiefs) intrigues Craig as a separation weapon in a route tree lacking one, but he's still a fifth-round rookie not worth reaching for.

Diggs and Aranda Gadsden are the two ADP movers the hosts actually believe in. DK and Craig both back Stefon Diggs as a legitimate value in Washington's offense despite the Tunsil injury, citing his top-10 yards-per-route-run and first-downs-per-route-run marks last year. Craig separately argues Gadsden's ADP fall makes him more appealing as a last-pick dart throw, pointing to Mike McDaniel's history of getting tight ends (Mike Gesicki, Durham Smythe) heavily involved.

What it means for your roster

  • Luther Burden: Still draftable in the fourth-round range (near Mike Evans/Davante Adams) if he's practicing healthy by late August; don't chase him down two full rounds.
  • Roma Dunze/Colston Loveland vs. Burden: DK would take Burden over Dunze right now; Craig is trending toward Dunze given Burden's injury, but flags Dunze's own foot issue as a red flag by his own admission. Treat Loveland as priced near his ceiling — a risky third-round pick.
  • Jameer Gibbs: Keep him as your RB1, but temper touchdown-ceiling expectations; the Lions have essentially no depth behind him (Kai Robichaux, Jabari Small), so a Gibbs injury would be a true streaming-back scenario until Detroit signs a veteran (James Conner floated as a fit).
  • Jonah Coleman: With J.K. Dobbins banged up again and a soft-tissue issue reported, Craig calls Coleman the best value-to-ADP running back in fantasy right now and expects him, not R.J. Harvey, to be Denver's lead back.
  • R.J. Harvey: Fade at his current ADP (~pick 100); Craig compares him to Alvin Kamara-upside talk that won't materialize under Sean Payton's history of never featuring one back past 230-240 carries.
  • Diggs and Gadsden: Draft Diggs as a real value target in Washington's passing game despite the Tunsil loss; take Gadsden as a legitimate last-pick-in-the-draft dart throw at tight end.
  • Fade the camp-hype names for redraft: Jacoby Lane and Cyrus Allen are avoids in standard redraft leagues (dynasty stashes only, per DK); Boston is more credible talent-wise but capped by Watson's health.
Get me to September, please.” — Danny Heifetz

Players in this episode

Jahmyr Gibbs · RB, DET

Still the No. 1 overall fantasy player and will get a massive workload per Dan Campbell, but center injury and thin offensive line depth create ceiling/floor concerns.

Christian McCaffrey · RB, SF

Sat out practice with 'tightness'; hosts joke it's fine since he shouldn't be overworked in camp anyway, but note added risk at age 30.

Jayden Daniels · QB, WAS

Loss of Tunsil could hurt the offense, but Daniels' mobility mitigates some risk; hosts may drop him slightly below Burrow/Herbert but keep him in the same overall tier.

Colston Loveland · TE, CHI

Hosts believe he's priced near his ceiling (going before Lamar Jackson in some drafts) and worry about a rookie TE target regression similar to Sam LaPorta's sophomore dip.

Luther Burden · WR, CHI

Suffered a groin strain that will cost him most/all of training camp; hosts expect only a modest ADP drop (maybe half a round) if he's healthy by season start.

RJ Harvey · RB, DEN

Compared to Darren Sproles; hosts believe he'll be capped in a rotational role since Sean Payton never features one back heavily, calling him overrated at his current ADP.

Rome Odunze · WR, CHI

Seen as a beneficiary of Burden's injury and a heavy Bears passing volume; one host says he's now his highest-ranked Bears receiver despite a foot injury concern.

J.K. Dobbins · RB, DEN

Suffered a soft-tissue injury; has never played more than 13 games in a season since college, raising concern about his workload security.

Stefon Diggs · WR, WAS

Elite efficiency metrics (top-10 YPRR and first downs per route run) make him a strong value pick in Washington's offense despite the Tunsil injury.

Jonah Coleman · RB, DEN

Viewed as the best value pick at his ADP; expected to be the primary beneficiary if Dobbins misses time, offering size, blocking and receiving ability.

Jalen Coker · WR, CAR

Once undrafted, now a bona fide No. 2 receiver with an $11M/year extension; viewed as a solid, efficient player who could be started midseason.

Denzel Boston · WR, CLE

Standout of Browns training camp with strong contested-catch ability and route running; hosts like him more in dynasty but are split on redraft value given Deshaun Watson's poor recent play.

Isiah Pacheco · RB, DET

Sprained MCL will cost him about a month of practice, leaving the Lions with almost no proven depth behind Gibbs.

Ja'Kobi Lane · WR, BAL

Praised for elite catch-radius and ball skills (compared to Tee Higgins at the catch point) and dominating training camp, but hosts say he's not fantasy-relevant this year given crowded Ravens receiver room.

Carson Beck · QB, ARI

Looked comfortable and showed arm strength/velocity in the Hall of Fame Game, easing some concerns about his elbow recovery, though the opposing defense lacked talent.

Cyrus Allen · WR, KC

Fifth-round rookie drawing hype as the Chiefs' best separator, potentially benefiting from Rashee Rice's early-season absence, but hosts are skeptical it will last, comparing the hype to a fleeting high.

Haynes King · QB, CAR

Undrafted free agent who had the game-winning play in the Hall of Fame Game; being compared to a Taysom Hill-type role, drawing dynasty add interest.

Ben Bryant · QB

Signed for 3 years/$40M after helping the Seahawks win the Super Bowl, now out 8-10 weeks, weakening what was supposed to be the Bears' defensive strength.

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