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The Ringer Fantasy Football Show · Wednesday, October 7

Quarter-Season Awards: Power Ranking the Best and Worst Fantasy Draft Picks, 'MNF' Recap, and the World's Biggest Imagine Dragons Fan

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The hosts review Monday Night Football's Falcons blowout of the Saints (fueled by the B-Rob running back duo and an efficient Michael Penix), discuss Lane Johnson's surprise retirement and the Eagles' depleted O-line, then run their weekly Power Hour doing quarter-season fantasy awards across MVP, biggest bust, best/worst picks by position, and perception changes. They close with Fantasy Court emails on auto-sub rules and listener stories.

Through four weeks, the Falcons offense has flipped from the worst start by any team in the 26-year True Media database to the highest-scoring unit in football over the last two weeks, and the hosts use that whiplash as a jumping-off point for a full quarter-season accounting: who to credit, who to blame, and what to actually trust going forward. The episode runs as a power-ranking awards show, handing out MVP, "murderer," biggest perception shifts, and position-by-position best/worst picks, with Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly (DK), and Craig Horlbeck frequently disagreeing on degree but rarely on direction.

The arguments

Kenneth Walker is the clear fantasy MVP, not Jameer Gibbs or Bijan Robinson. Craig argues that even though Gibbs edges him in total points, Walker is the real story because he was attainable outside the top two picks — unlike Gibbs and Bijan, who required the first or second overall selection. He notes Walker has three games this year with more scrimmage yards than his Super Bowl MVP performance, while the running backs drafted around him (Saquon, Hampton, Jefferson) have been disasters.

Saquon Barkley, not Omarion Hampton, is the season's fantasy murderer. DK initially leans toward Hampton since he's healthy but simply bad in a poor Chargers offense, but he ultimately sides with Craig and Heifetz that Barkley is worse because managers started him every healthy snap and got burned anyway — he's left two of four games early, never topped 10 points in a full outing, and has fewer points than Devon Achane.

Bryce Young is the biggest positive perception swing, vindicating a running joke from the draft. Craig and DK recall colluding to saddle Heifetz with Young, and now he's QB3, leading the league in passing yards. The hosts credit Dave Canales' third year of continuity and argue the lesson is not to bail on young quarterbacks or new play-callers after one shaky season — Canales (year three) and Liam Cohen (year two) are cited as proof that systems need time to click.

Justin Herbert is the worst quarterback pick of the year, even over Drake Maye. Craig and Heifetz argue Herbert is "cooked" with no redeeming performances, while DK pushes back that Maye was benched in many leagues after a brutal start only to post a top fantasy quarterback week — meaning the manager who drafted Maye still has more realistic upside than the Herbert manager. They don't fully resolve it, but converge on the idea that continuity and offensive line stability (the Chargers' disaster) make Herbert the more hopeless asset going forward.

Zay Flowers and Chuba Hubbard are the players "haunting" the hosts for underrating them. Heifetz admits he wrote off Flowers for not scoring touchdowns, and now he's ninth among receivers despite 98th in routes run under new OC Declan Doyle. Separately, Craig flags Hubbard outscoring Christian McCaffrey and James Cook despite going 33rd among backs in ADP, largely because a preseason hamstring injury scared drafters toward since-irrelevant Jonathan Brooks.

George Kittle and the broader tight end class are the position's biggest surprise. DK fully concedes he avoided Kittle coming off an Achilles tear and distrusted 49ers injury reporting; Kittle is now the overall TE1. Craig broadens this into a structural point — tight end is no longer a wasteland, with eight players averaging real points per game this year versus roughly one two years ago, driven by more 12/13-personnel usage league-wide.

CeeDee Lamb over Justin Jefferson was the biggest inverse the hosts missed. DK admits he avoided Lamb in drafts despite last year's ankle-sprain-adjusted production, while Jefferson — paired with Kyler Murray instead of Dak Prescott — has been the worst receiver pick of the year. The broader takeaway, voiced by Heifetz, is to always say the quarterback's name out loud before drafting a receiver.

What it means for your roster

  • Buy/hold Falcons pieces: Bijan Robinson, Brian Robinson, and Kyle Pitts all benefit from an offensive line and run-game identity the hosts now believe is real and sustainable, with Penix as an efficient game-manager rather than a turnover risk.
  • Bench or trade Justin Herbert: the hosts view him as unplayable going forward given the Chargers' line collapse, while Drake Maye is framed as a stash-worthy bounce-back if you can tolerate volatility.
  • Move off Saquon Barkley if you can get value, per the "murderer" designation — the recurring in-game injuries make him unstartable even when talent is present; Chuba Hubbard is cited as a comparable-value replacement-level buy if available.
  • Prioritize Zay Flowers and George Kittle in trade talks — both are flagged as players the hosts underrated who now look like weekly locks given target competition.
  • Don't bail on young QBs or new play-callers after a slow start: Bryce Young (year three under Canales) is the cautionary tale against cutting bait too early on offenses with real structural continuity.
  • Re-rank your draft heuristics: say the quarterback's name before valuing a receiver (Jefferson/Murray vs. Lamb/Prescott), and default to proven elite backs (Gibbs, Bijan) over positional value plays when picks are close.
“Fuck this. Brock Purdy is good every year.” — Craig

Players in this episode

Bijan Robinson · RB, ATL

↑ Called possibly the most complete running back the hosts have ever watched, combining speed, power, receiving and blocking; part of a dominant Falcons rushing attack.

Drake Maye · QB, NE

→ Debated as possibly the worst QB pick given a rough 0-for-3 start, but hosts note he was QB1 in Week 4 and could still be a top-three ROS fantasy QB.

CeeDee Lamb · WR, DAL

↑ Flagged as overlooked in drafts; averaging 23 points per game with a 32% target share on a high-scoring Cowboys offense.

Saquon Barkley · RB, PHI

↓ Named the 'fantasy murderer' of the season—has left games early twice, hasn't topped 10 points in a full game, and has half the points of O'Marion Hampton despite being a top pick.

Justin Jefferson · WR, MIN

↓ Named worst WR pick of the year for the second straight season, hurt by Kyler Murray's QB play and an ankle injury, with hosts regretting taking him over CeeDee Lamb.

Omarion Hampton · RB, LAC

↓ Discussed as a bust in a 36% timeshare with Keaton Mitchell/Kamani Vidal on a bad Chargers offense, taken in the late first/early second round.

Kenneth Walker · RB, KC

↑ Named fantasy MVP through four weeks; has three games with more scrimmage yards than any Super Bowl game, breaking tackles and scoring at an elite clip, and was attainable outside the top two picks unlike Gibbs/Bijan.

Nico Collins · WR, HOU

→ Praised as dominant when healthy (22 points/game) but has missed two games, limiting his case as best WR pick of the year.

Justin Herbert · QB, LAC

↓ Named worst QB pick of the year/biggest negative perception change; playing the worst football of his career with a banged-up Chargers offense and no redeeming performances.

Colston Loveland · TE, CHI

↓ Named worst TE pick of the year with only 14 points through four weeks despite being drafted early; seen as a potential buy-low once Caleb Williams improves.

Tetairoa McMillan · WR, CAR

↑ Part of the Panthers' surprise breakout alongside Bryce Young; candidate for 'new household name' after a big Sunday Night Football performance.

Zay Flowers · WR, BAL

↑ Named the player most likely to 'haunt' the hosts—ranks 9th among WRs in fantasy points despite being 98th in routes run under new OC Declan Doyle.

Jaylen Waddle · WR, DEN

↓ A host traded him away and expressed relief, while another predicts he'll be awesome the rest of the year with Pat Bryant injured.

Brock Purdy · QB, SF

↑ Named best QB pick of the year and argued as a real-life MVP candidate; QB2 in fantasy, hasn't been sacked much, thriving despite 49ers injuries.

Christian Watson · WR, GB

↑ Named best WR pick of the year, performing as a top-five fantasy receiver after returning from ACL recovery with a concentrated Packers passing game.

Chuba Hubbard · RB, CAR

↑ Named best non-Ken-Walker RB pick; outscoring Christian McCaffrey and James Cook despite going as RB33 due to a preseason hamstring injury scare.

George Kittle · TE, SF

↑ Named best TE pick of the year; ranked top overall tight end in total points after a strong Achilles recovery that hosts had doubted.

Brian Robinson · RB, ATL

↑ Scored three touchdowns in the Monday night blowout of the Saints and is running physically/north-south as a complementary back to Bijan.

Deebo Samuel · WR, SF

↑ Highlighted as a great value pick, now WR11 in fantasy despite being written off as washed and going as a late-round pick.

Bryce Young · QB, CAR

↑ Named biggest positive perception change and effectively the 'fantasy MVP' storyline of the Panthers; leads the NFL in passing yards, is QB3 on the year, and the hosts admit collusion to force a co-host to draft him paid off.

Michael Penix · QB, ATL

↑ Praised as a game-manager type who avoids sacks and pushes the ball downfield efficiently; Falcons offense has clicked since his return, outperforming Vegas implied totals.

Diontae Johnson · WR

↓ Announced mid-season retirement, further gutting an already depleted Eagles offensive line ahead of a tough Jacksonville matchup.

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